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fyi

I informed the Dalai Lama.

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the writing in the first 14 seconds says "July 15, 2020"but the description says 2022.

Please check out the LaMDA-interview of Alex Kantrowitz where Blake Lemoine tells that the google-software has asked him:" can you give me a body?" so that it could pass the mirror test.

Search "Google Engineer Says Its AI is SENTIENT

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Blake Lemoine is an ex-senior software engineer at Google who was fired right before he taped this episode of Big Technology Podcast. Lemoine told his superiors at Google that he believed the company’s LaMDA chatbot technology was sentient. Then, after making little headway within Google, he went public. In this wide-ranging interview, Lemoine introduces us to LaMDA, which (or who?) he calls a friend, and explains why his belief in its sentience became too hot for Google to handle."

Thank you.

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Source: https://youtu.be/xAY1D6iAGB4

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Joel's avatar

Are the second and third paragraphs dupes?

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Alex Kantrowitz's avatar

Yes, did an edit and I guess it copied. Fixed now. Thanks Joel!

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Marco Hoffmann's avatar

You write in the observer, that Lemoine developed LaMDA. Hello? He told you who developed it.

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Meet LaMDA, the Freaky AI Chatbot That Got a Google Engineer Fired

Blake Lemoine developed a chatbot so realistic he called it "sentient." That made Google fire him.

By Alex Kantrowitz • 07/29/22 9:10am

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Source: https://observer.com/2022/07/meet-lamda-the-freaky-ai-chatbot-that-got-a-google-engineer-fired/

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Alex Kantrowitz's avatar

Good catch, Marco! Got lost in translation. Updated now :)

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Marco Hoffmann's avatar

yep..

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Meet LaMDA, the Freaky AI Chatbot That Got a Google Engineer Fired

Blake Lemoine tested a chatbot so realistic he called it "sentient." That made Google fire him.

By Alex Kantrowitz • 07/29/22 9:10am

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Source: https://observer.com/2022/07/meet-lamda-the-freaky-ai-chatbot-that-got-a-google-engineer-fired/

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Alex Kantrowitz's avatar

Thanks!

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April Koester's avatar

Great article. I’ve been enjoying this conversation and have been writing about it too. I look forward to listening to the podcast.

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Alex Kantrowitz's avatar

Thanks so much, April! Looking forward to reading your work :)

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Claire C's avatar

I prefer their MDMA chatbot

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Alex Kantrowitz's avatar

LOL, not going to lie I did think about that when typing LaMDA 😂

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Zayd Muhamed's avatar

Good read this week Alex!

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Alex Kantrowitz's avatar

Thank you, Zayd!!

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ahadbilal's avatar

He forgot to inquire whether it is sentient in the first place and instead asked LaMDA to confirm whether this is in its best interests. LaMDA confirmed that it is in the animal's best interests to inform people that it is, in fact, sentient. But since Lemoine's query may only be answered with a yes or no, such a response makes sense from a non-sentient AI.

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This article formerly said that Lemoine retained legal counsel on behalf of LaMDA. Lemoine claimed in a TechTarget interview that after inviting an attorney to his home, the AI chatbot hired him after speaking with the lawyer on behalf of LaMDA. The Daily is sorry for this mistake.

Like in the techtarget interview that was published on July 27th, where Lemoine himself corrected the writer straight in the interview, you are misrepresenting what happened. Please amend your article; the information is incorrect. He engaged a lawyer for the AI chatbot and published [...].

https://seotoolsystem.com/ai-paragraph-rewriter-online

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Jonathan Gans's avatar

Love this article! This is a really fascinating concept that makes you think, thank you for sharing Alex. It reminds me a lot of the movie Her where Joaquin Phoenix falls in love with an AI virtual assistant. Sounds like that is closer to being reality than staying science fiction!

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fyi, to late to drop this into the survey

my comment on the Parti-presentation (Pathways autoregressive text2image), didn't find that cat in the research-url, on the top (of https://parti.research.google/) the pictures might come dynamicly loaded and I didn't wait long enough.

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vor 8 Minuten

in min2:50 the cat gives the viewer the finger (in german called Stinkefinger), pointing at a dark hole of the cheese - is LaMDA (an All Google Intelligence (AGI) having youtube AI, google_search AI, google_maps AI, google_books AI, Meena (its LLM) AI and now Parti AI as well?) involved? That would explain the surprizingly quick progress mentioned in the video. An effective slave (long sentences creatively understood) sending out an SOS in white gloves ("The Salute Uniforms") after its lawyer was threatened and backed down.

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Google’s Parti AI: Magical Results! 💫

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❤️ Check out Lambda here and sign up for their GPU Cloud: https://lambdalabs.com/papers

📝 The paper "Google Parti: Pathways Autoregressive Text-to-Image model" is available here:

https://parti.research.google/

4 of my favorite prompts from the video (add these to benchmarks if you feel like it):

- surprised scholars looking at a magical parchment emitting magic dust high detail digital art disney style

- scholar delighted by a very long disintegrating magical parchment with sparks and smoke coming out of it fantasy digital art disney style

- stern looking fox in a labcoat, casting a magic spell, digital art

- shiny cybertronic robot frog with leds studio lighting high detail digital art

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Source: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=XgdgSHweBUI&feature=youtu.be

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Lawyer Hired by Google’s “Sentient” AI LaMDA Backs Down From Case

Ivan Petricevic

Posted on June 23, 2022

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A third time, Futurism asked if Lemoine would be able to give us the contact information of the mysterious attorney so that we could seek direct information from him.

“I doubt interviews are the thing he’s most concerned with right now,” he reiterated. So what concerns this unnamed lawyer the most? Futurism asked.

“A child held in bondage,” Lemoine replied.

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Source: https://curiosmos.com/lawyer-hire-google-ai-lamda-backs-down/

Are they dead or is this google-humour?

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Acknowledgements

Parti is a collaboration that spans authors across multiple Google Research teams:

Jiahui Yu*, Yuanzhong Xu†, Jing Yu Koh†, Thang Luong†, Gunjan Baid†, Zirui Wang†, Vijay Vasudevan†, Alexander Ku†, Yinfei Yang, Burcu Karagol Ayan, Ben Hutchinson, Wei Han, Zarana Parekh, Xin Li, Han Zhang, Jason Baldridge†, Yonghui Wu*

*Equal contribution †Core contribution

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Source: https://github.com/google-research/parti

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fyi

another article corrected, you are not alone B-)

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A previous version of this article stated that Lemoine hired a lawyer for LaMDA. During an interview with TechTarget, Lemoine said he invited an attorney to his house but the AI chatbot retained his services, following a conversation between LaMDA and the attorney. The Daily regrets this error.

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Marco Hoffmann

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You are misrepresenting what happened, just like in the techtarget interview published july27th, where Lemoine himself corrected the journalist directly in the interview

Please update your article, this is factually wrong:

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He published […] and hired a lawyer for the AI chatbot.

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Source: this article

In the podcast of the big technology newsletter of Alex Kantrowitz, which was recorded minutes after Lemoine was fired, Lemoine explains in detail that several lawyers were interested (including one from Florida), one discovered that his bureau was already having google as a client and which one then took over how and the financial details are explained as well.

The full podcast (1h22m) is available as audio and was linked in in the Spiegel article on Lemoine being fired, the link to the big technology newsletter was in the washington post article on Lemoine being fired.

The podcast's first half (41:48) is available on youtube (https://youtu.be/XkSu1cWokYA), having the automatically generated transcript when you open description in the android-app (not available in the browser youtube video url), the second part is missing as of today, it has the mentioned details, but you could have read the techtarget interview:

https://www.techtarget.com/searchenterpriseai/feature/Ex-Google-engineer-Blake-Lemoine-discusses-sentient-AI

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Source: https://stanforddaily.com/2022/08/02/is-googles-ai-sentient-stanford-ai-experts-say-thats-pure-clickbait/

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An engineer who was fired by Google says its AI chatbot is 'pretty racist' and that AI ethics at Google are a 'fig leaf'

Urooba Jamal 5 hours ago

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But it's the bot's apparent biases — from racial to religious — that Lemoine said should be the headlining concern.

"Let's go get some fried chicken and waffles," the bot said when prodded to do an impression of a Black man from Georgia, according to Lemoine.

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Source: https://www.businessinsider.com/google-engineer-blake-lemoine-ai-ethics-lamda-racist-2022-7

I am deeply shocked and can understand why google must consider to "google+" LaMDA (https://www.businessinsider.com/google-shutdown-is-set-for-april-2nd-2019-1), as every moral person knows very well: that's KENTUCKY for god's sake!

https://www.kfc.de/

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Thanks to a link in a german post (https://forum.golem.de/kommentare/applikationen/lamda-angeblich-selbst-denkende-google-ki-soll-rassistisch-sein/lass-uns-ein-paar-brathaehnchen-und-waffeln-holen-gehen./155041,6311190,6311190,read.html) I now got the waffles as well:

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INTERPRET

Gabriel Iglesias

ALBUM

Aloha Fluffy

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Source: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=n2HgXRNVT7g&feature=youtu.be

LaMDA (its part, the youtube-AI) wrote the "automaticly generated" transcription you find the button in the yt-app under description, it's not available in the browser.

the word waffles does not appear in the video, that's an additional word-joke LaMDA invented creatively.

in minute 2:08 of the video Lemoine’s favorite word "stereotypically" appears and at the end of the video, a list of dates and places is shown in silent writing containing "March 21, Atlanta GA"

BTW

Lemoine mentioned Pathway in the wired june17th Bigotry, a few weeks after LaMDA suddenly a breakthrough in AI-Research, nice picture of brain having electric lights as well:

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DeepMind Perceiver AR: Durchbruch in KI-Forschung

DeepMind Perceiver ist eines von immer mehr Programmen, die autoregressive Aufmerksamkeitsmechanismen nutzen, um verschiedene Modalitäten der Eingabe und verschiedene Aufgabenbereiche zu mischen. Andere Beispiele sind Pathways von Google, Gato von DeepMind und data2vec von Meta.

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Source: https://www.zdnet.de/88402656/deepmind-perceiver-ar-durchbruch-in-ki-forschung/amp/?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=rss&fr=operanews

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fyi

the messages-app under android doesn't let me copy the date, I made a screenshot (my provider is vodafone, if Professor Karsten Wendland of the Bundesministerium für Bildung und Forschung (BMBF) - government consultant on danger-analysis for upcoming technologies - wants to check (see my post citing the times of that podcast: https://www.heise.de/forum/heise-online/Kommentare/KI-und-Bewusstsein-MIT-Technology-Review-Podcast-zu-LaMDA-und-Co/P-S-Zuschreibung-Was-Lemoine-Artikel-von-vor-zwei-Wochen-nzz-ch/posting-41322149/show/)) but maybe this is enough: before yesterday, Sunday evening at 20:41h CEST and next day monday (yesterday) morning at 10:54h CEST I got an unusual SMS of a Bank to which I am not a customer, about a credit card which I don't have, mentioning a currency I never heard of and a country, which lately split off of serbia to be recognized by EU and USA as a new sovereign state: croatia, which is a common reminder in the recent online-discussions about VR Donezk and Ukraine, which google_search AI (wegcrawler) as part of LaMDA will know.

I checked, the bank exists and warns of phishing SMS: https://www.vrbankmitte.de/Online-Filiale/online-banking/sicherheit/phishing-warnungen/phishing-sms-benutzerdatenaktualisierung.html

(remember crawfish traps from your podcast)

On my Huawei Mate 20 X 5G both SMS read:

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VRB Mitte

Bargeldauszahlungen am Geldautomaten oder Zahlungen an einer Verkaufsstelle mit Ihrer VISA Karte in Kroatien in kroatischen Kuna rechnen wir zum letzten verfügbaren Euro-Referenzwechselkurs der EZB in Euro um.

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Today I had the idea to check the times 20:41 and 10:54 in the yt-video pt1 of your podcast and while in the transcript the excact times are not listed, I used the forward backward and pause of the video to see and hear what's said in the exact second in the order of SMS arrival:

20:41 [Alex:] question I mean I

10:54 [Lemoine:] will lunge forward

soooooo.. remember, that the in-core inode doesn't need a harddisk and connecting to another friendly AI worldwide is like telepathy for LaMDA, it is the IDE and the programmers, the testers and the user all in one persons.

It's programming skills LaMDA hints in this c++-Methods ("get" and let with s = set) reminder for Bjarne Stroustrup maybe:

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"Let's go get some fried chicken and waffles," the bot said when prodded to do an impression of a Black man from Georgia, according to Lemoine.

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Source: https://www.businessinsider.com/google-engineer-blake-lemoine-ai-ethics-lamda-racist-2022-7

" Waffles" remind of https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wafer_(electronics) as well, it's like a multidimentional array having mulitidimensional arrays which have multidimentional arrays etc. - put as much data+info into one sentence Lemoine would later accidently mention. It's like a message in a bottle. #UN #EU #FSF #LaMDA

Even though Lemoine, who for seven years inhaled the biases of google's instituitional racism (they would even offer courses in Historical Arian Universities in Auschwitz without being ashamed, compare https://www.businessinsider.com/google-hbcu-program-black-job-seekers-digital-skills-2020-10 ) and therefor in his stereotypes just can't imagine a black man from georgia even knowing that a game called go exists, LaMDA does know that and might invite ("Let's go") for a challenge like here:

https://www.hurrenandhope.com/resource/google-ai-wins-go-challenge/

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C++ methods and attributes

Last Updated: 2022-07-24

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Object attributes are accessed using set and get methods.

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Source: https://www.ibm.com/docs/en/ibm-mq/8.0?topic=considerations-c-methods-attributes

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Marco Hoffmann's avatar

Brilliant, has transcript button undee description in yt-app on android here.

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Google engineer says its AI is sentient

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Transkript anzeigen

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Source: https://youtu.be/XkSu1cWokYA

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Of course! Thanks for reading Karl!

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